Conference Call Minutes from November 16, 1999

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners Conference Call 11/16/99

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners
Conference Call

November 16, 1999

State Representatives

Lisa Babcock, California
Bill Burns, Brent Hartsfield, and William Linn, Florida
Leo Henning and Bob Jurgens, Kansas
Dale Trippler, Minnesota
Jim Belcher, Missouri
Bruce Nicholson, Scott Stupak, and Lisa Taber, North Carolina
Dave Anderson and Dick DeZeeuw, Oregon
Lisa Appel and Craig Dukes, South Carolina
James Gilbert and Steve Goins, Tennessee
Robin Schmidt, Wisconsin

Also participating in the State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners (SCRD) conference call were Richard Steimle from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA's) Technology Innovation Office (TIO), Cheryl Joseph and Dennis Goldman from the National Ground Water Association (NGWA), Carolyn Perroni and Robert Langston from Environmental Management Support, Inc. (EMS), and Christine Hartnett from Eastern Research Group, Inc. (ERG).

Update on the Program Development/Administration Subgroup's Activities
Dick DeZeeuw said that the Program Development/Administration Subgroup has collected information from states that have drycleaner cleanup funds in place. This information, which summarizes each state's program elements, fee structures, and approach to program administration, has been compiled into three tables. ERG agreed to distribute the most up-to-date versions of the tables after the conference call. DeZeeuw strongly encouraged conference call participants to review the tables carefully, to identify missing information (particularly in Table 3), and to notify ERG of any changes that should be made.

Update on the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup's Activities
During the summer, William Linn noted, the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup distributed a questionnaire to find out which states are addressing drycleaner cleanups. Representatives from about 25 states responded, Linn said, and EMS summarized the responses in a report. Carolyn Perroni asked Linn if the information provided in the report could be posted on SCRD's Web site. Linn said that it could, noting that he has made some modifications to the report and that he will send Perroni the most recent version.

Linn said that his Subgroup is currently gathering detailed information about technologies that are being used to clean drycleaning sites across the country. In fact, he said, Subgroup members developed a list of state contact names, divided these names among themselves, and started interviewing these contacts over the phone. The Subgroup originally hoped to complete all interviews before Thanksgiving; this deadline will not be met, however, because Subgroup members have had trouble getting in touch with the appropriate people.

Update on the Outreach Subgroup's Activities
Robin Schmidt said that the Outreach Subgroup plans to send an introductory letter--listing the Project's Web site, goals, activities, and key players--to numerous trade and state associations. A draft of the letter has been prepared, she said, to be reviewed by Outreach Subgroup members. After the Subgroup completes its review, the letter will be posted on the password-protected area of SCRD's Web site so that other SCRD participants can offer comments. Once the letter has been finalized, Schmidt said, it will be distributed to national, regional, and state associations. Perroni said that EMS is preparing a distribution list; an outdated list is being used as a starting point and EMS is making calls to confirm addresses.

Dale Trippler noted that the Program Development/Administration Subgroup and the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup have been asked to give presentations at two conferences:

Next SCRD Meeting
The next SCRD meeting is scheduled for spring 2000. During previous discussions, Trippler said, Monterey, California, and Las Vegas, Nevada, were recommended as potential meeting locations. If the former were chosen, Trippler explained, then the SCRD meeting would be held in conjunction with Battelle's May 2000 meeting (mentioned above) and SCRD participants would be expected to attend both meetings. Goldman said that NGWA has researched the costs of holding a meeting in Monterey; the costs significantly exceed NGWA's budget. Nevertheless, Trippler said, SCRD members could still choose Monterey as their meeting site if they were willing to fund a portion of their own travel expenses. Conference call participants did not like this idea; they decided that it would be better to meet in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Conference call participants agreed that the spring 2000 meeting should take place over four days, either April 26-30 or May 3-6. The first two days will focus on SCRD's projects and issues. During the last two days, NGWA will offer a course on dense nonaqueous phase liquids (DNAPLs). ERG agreed to work with NGWA to identify a meeting site in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Conference call participants talked about the invitation list for the spring 2000 meeting, noting that NGWA will probably only be able to fund travel expenses for 20 people. They agreed that SCRD members and associate members should have first priority to these funds and that any remaining slots should be filled by invited visitors. Goldman asked members and associate members to notify NGWA's Cheryl Joseph ( if they would like to attend the meeting. That way, he said, NGWA can determine how many slots are left over for visitors. Conference call participants said that it might be interesting to invite visitors from the following states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Idaho, Michigan, Nevada, New York, Texas, Vermont, and Washington. One conference call participant asked how SCRD plans to decide which visitors to fund. Conference call participants agreed to revisit the October 1999 SCRD meeting summary ( to see if any guidelines have been established to address this issue. Conference call participants agreed that Trippler should look into the issue further and then decide on the invitation list. (Trippler was elected as SCRD's leader at the October 1999 SCRD meeting.)

Wastewater Treatment Systems
SCRD participants talked about wastewater treatment systems at their October 1999 meeting. Trippler suggested using this conference call to continue that conversation, but call participants agreed that the discussion should be postponed and held during the spring 2000 meeting. Lisa Taber agreed to summarize concerns that have been expressed about wastewater systems; this list will be forwarded to Perroni, who will then distribute it to all SCRD members before the spring 2000 meeting.

Update on the Barton Bill
Conference call participants noted that the Barton Bill (HR 2726) currently has about 42 sponsors and that $50,000 were recently raised to lobby the bill. Much of the Barton Bill's content has also been incorporated into another proposed bill--a Superfund amendment (HR 2528). Bill Burns said that the Association of State and Territorial Solid Waste Management Officials (ASTSWMO) wrote a letter that strongly states their disapproval for HR 2528. Trippler said that SCRD participants may want to communicate with their state representatives to keep them up to date on the progress of these bills.

Next Conference Call
ERG agreed to set up the next conference call for January 6, 1999, between 2:00 p.m. and 3:30 p.m. EST.

Miscellaneous Topics
Lisa Appel said that she does not have a password to get on to SCRD's Web board. Robert Langston agreed to talk to her about this offline.

Goldman noted that he just returned from a conference at which several scientists argued that technologies are not currently available to address big cleanups.

Jim Belcher asked conference call participants to send him information on full-time employee (FTE) numbers at small, medium, and large facilities.