Conference Call Minutes from January 6, 2000

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners Conference Call - January 6, 2000

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners
Conference Call

January 6, 2000

State Representatives

Bill Burns, Doug Fitton, Brent Hartsfield, and William Linn
Leo Henning and Bob Jurgens
Pat Erickson
Dale Trippler
Tim Eiken
Bruce Nicholson and Scott Stupak
Dick DeZeeuw and David Anderson
Lisa Appel and Craig Dukes
Steve Goins
Michael Smith
Robin Schmidt

North Carolina
South Carolina

Also participating in the State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners (SCRD) conference call were Richard Steimle from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA's) Technology Innovation Office (TIO), Cheryl Joseph and Dennis Goldman from the National Ground Water Association (NGWA), Carolyn Perroni from Environmental Management Support, Inc. (EMS), and Christine Hartnett from Eastern Research Group, Inc. (ERG).

Dale Trippler noted that the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup and the Program Development/Administration Subgroup have been asked to give presentations at two conferences:

    Tenth Annual West Coast Conference on Contaminated Soils, taking place in San Diego, California, in March 2000. For this conference, both Subgroups have been asked to present posters and prepare handouts. Carolyn Perroni and Bob Jurgens talked briefly about the posters. Perroni said that EMS prepared some preliminary graphical designs for the posters, distributed the design for comment, edited them, and then posted them to the SCRD Web site in the News section. She told participants to contact her if they have trouble accessing the graphics. EMS also plans to create an overall poster layout and to distribute this to SCRD participants via PDF files. (Jurgens said that conference planners sent him poster presentation guidelines; he will forward these to Perroni.) Before the posters can be finalized, Perroni must receive additional technical information from the Subgroups. Jurgens said that the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup is still collecting information. That Subgroup, he said, is contacting people across the country to learn more about innovative technologies that are being used to remediate drycleaning sites. So far, he said, the Subgroup has collected information on three recirculating well projects, three hydrogen release compound projects, three potassium permanganate projects, one sodium permanganate project, two hydrogen peroxide projects, one co-solvent flush, one permeable reactive barrier site, one KVA project, and a site that is using anaerobic bioventing technologies.

    Battelle's Remediation of Chlorinated and Recalcitrant Compounds conference, taking place in Monterey, California, in May 2000. For this conference, Trippler noted, the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup will present a poster and the Program Development/Administration Subgroup will present a paper and give a slide presentation. Jurgens said that the former will use the poster that is being generated for the San Diego conference. Efforts are currently underway to prepare the Program Development/Administration Subgroup's paper and presentation. The paper has four authors: Dick DeZeeuw, Robin Schmidt, Leo Henning, and Trippler. Schmidt has collected sections from each of the authors, has generated a first draft of the paper, and has distributed it to the four authors. DeZeeuw suggested forwarding the paper to Perroni so that she can offer editorial comments and can start creating graphics for the paper and slides for the presentation. DeZeeuw will set up a conference call for the four authors and Perroni during the week of January 10, 2000. He said that the Subgroup is eager to have other SCRD participants review the paper; those who are interested should contact Schmidt. DeZeeuw hopes to distribute the paper to peer reviewers by January 17, 2000. By February 1, 2000, he said, the paper's text should be finalized and preliminary graphics should be completed. The paper must be completely finalized by the February 28 deadline for paper submissions.

Trippler said that the materials described above may be useful for other presentations as well. In fact, he wants to use the Program Development/Administration Subgroup's slides for a talk at the State of Minnesota's drycleaning convention. Perroni said these will be available to him. Also, she reminded him that a PowerPoint presentation has been created for SCRD. Perroni will send this presentation to Trippler.

Update on the Outreach Subgroup's Activities
Schmidt said that the Outreach Subgroup has prepared an introductory letter that will be sent to numerous trade and state associations. Perroni said that SCRD members can obtain the letter by visiting the SCRD Web site's Administrative section. If no feedback is received by January 12, 2000, Perroni said, she will assume that SCRD participants have no comments and the letter will be distributed to trade and state associations. (Henning said that he is unable to access files at the Web site; Perroni will look into this matter.) Schmidt said that she will e-mail Outreach Subgroup members to ask whether there is interest in meeting via conference call to discuss additional outreach topics.

April 2000 SCRD Meeting
The next SCRD meeting will take place at the Stardust Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. The meeting will span four days; the SCRD group will meet during the first two days (April 25 and 26) and NGWA will offer a DNAPL training on the last two days (April 27 and 28). Cheryl Joseph agreed to call Trippler to finalize the list of SCRD members who will receive funding for the meeting and training. After determining how many members will attend, NGWA will determine how many additional slots are available to fund associate members.

In the near future, Joseph said, meeting attendees will receive information about travel arrangements. A travel agent's phone number will be provided; if SCRD participants choose to make reservations through this agent, plane charges will be billed directly to NGWA. Also, SCRD members will be notified when a room block has been established at the hotel. Meeting attendees will be responsible for contacting the hotel and making their own sleeping room arrangements. Ideally, NGWA plans to set up an agreement with the hotel so that all room charges (excluding frivolous and personal expenses) are charged directly to NGWA.

Call participants suggested including the following in their April 2000 meeting agenda:

    Subgroup breakout sessions. Call participants agreed that the three SCRD Subgroups should meet on the morning of April 25. At this time, the subgroups will brainstorm about future activities.

    Subgroup reports. Call participants agreed that each Subgroup leader should give a brief report on what his or her subgroup talked about during breakout sessions.

    State updates. Call participants said that representatives from each state should provide brief update reports. Talks should either summarize the characteristics of state programs or the lessons learned at specific drycleaning sites. DeZeeuw said that it would be particularly useful to hear about no-further-action sites, which would be useful case studies. When choosing which sites to describe, Dennis Goldman said, SCRD participants should remember that reporting on failures can be very helpful.

    An administrative session. Conference call participants agreed that SCRD participants need to clarify some logistical issues and to refine rules for designating membership.

    An update on the Barton Bill's status. DeZeeuw suggested inviting a speaker who can discuss the status of the Barton Bill. Perroni said that she will talk to Richard Steimle about finding a speaker. Goldman said that he will also follow up on DeZeeuw's request.

    A presentation by the Interstate Technology Regulatory Cooperation (ITRC). Schmidt said that ITRC's dense nonaqueous phase liquid (DNAPL) work group has expressed interest in establishing better communication with SCRD. Brent Hartsfield, a representative for the ITRC DNAPL workgroup, will talk to his colleagues about giving a presentation. (The presentation will focus on ways in which ITRC and SCRD could collaborate.)

    A summary of Florida's experiences. William Linn agreed to give a 20-minute talk on a paper that the Florida Department of Environmental Protection is preparing.

    Presentations from outside speakers. Call participants noted that some industry representatives, vendors, and consultants may be interested in attending the SCRD meeting. Some of these people could provide useful information.(1) Conference call participants agreed to designate two or three discussion slots for outside speakers. Trippler asked SCRD participants to forward him the names of anyone who has expressed interest in giving a presentation. If Trippler thinks that the potential speaker's information could benefit the group, he will ask the speaker to write a brief abstract. This abstract will then be sent to SCRD participants so that they can decide whether to include the presentation in the agenda. If the presentation is not included in the meeting's agenda, Bruce Nicholson and Trippler said, there may still be ways for industry representatives, vendors, and consultants to communicate their ideas. For example, Trippler said, non-SCRD participants could sit at a table outside the meeting room door and talk to SCRD participants during breaks and at the end of the day. Nicholson suggested setting aside an hour after the meeting's sessions to allow speakers to talk with individual SCRD members or to give presentations. Attendance at this late session would be optional; only those SCRD members who had a specific interest in an outside speaker's topics would be expected to attend.

    A discussion on pollution prevention measures and best management practices (BMPs). Conference call participants recommended talking about pollution prevention activities and BMPs. They agreed that part of the discussion should focus on wastewater treatment systems.

Trippler asked conference call participants to forward additional agenda items to him. Before closing the discussion on the April 2000 SCRD meeting, DeZeeuw recommended inviting representatives from industry publications (e.g., The National Clothesline). By doing this, he said, SCRD may get some coverage in industry publications.

Goldman talked briefly about the NGWA training session that will follow the SCRD meeting. He said that the course being offered is usually presented over three days; it needs to be shortened to accommodate SCRD's schedule. He agreed to send the three-day course outline to SCRD participants so that they can provide comments on which sections to cut and which to highlight. He will then forward these suggestions to the course's instructor.

Fall/Winter 2000 Meeting
Trippler suggested holding SCRD's fall/winter 2000 meeting in North Carolina, South Carolina, or Florida. SCRD members from those states agreed to investigate the possibility of meeting in a hub city.

Update on Barton Bill
Call participants noted that the Barton Bill has been written as a stand-alone bill (HR 2726) and has also been incorporated into the Superfund amendment (HR 2528). Schmidt said that activity on the latter bill has been stopped for this session. Conference call participants agreed that SCRD needs to track the Barton Bill closely. At one point, Trippler said, SCRD was considering writing a position paper against the bill. Henning did not think a paper is needed at this time. (The Association of State and Territorial Solid Waste Management Officials has already written a letter that states strong disapproval for HR 2528.) Bill Burns said that SCRD needs to gain more experience before it is prepared to write position papers on any topic.

Next Conference Call
ERG agreed to set up a conference call for February 15, 2000, between 2:00 p.m. and 3:30 p.m. EST.

Miscellaneous Topics
Schmidt questioned whether SCRD's Web site contains accurate information. Specifically, she asked why the Web site's contact list does not designate Connecticut as a member and Missouri as an associate member. Conference call participants agreed that Missouri should be listed as an associate member, but they were not as sure how to designate Connecticut. For now, they agreed to list Connecticut as a member because it does have a Fund program established. Perroni will fix the list on the Web site.

Perroni said that she has received several materials from one industry member, and asked whether these should be distributed to the entire SCRD team. Whenever Perroni receives materials, Trippler said, she should contact a couple of SCRD members to determine whether the materials are being disseminated to the group. If they are not, then SCRD participants will have to make a decision about how to distribute incoming information.

DeZeeuw said that two interesting articles appeared in this month's edition of The National Clothesline ( These articles indicated that:

    The Halogenated Solvents Industry Alliance released a white paper on tetrachloroethylene. DeZeeuw suggested posting this paper on SCRD's Web site.

    A tax cut bill has been proposed. DeZeeuw said that Jesse Helms has introduced a bill proposing tax cuts for drycleaners that use less-polluting equipment.

1. Henning recommended inviting an International Fabric Care Association representative to one of SCRD's meetings. Linn thought this was a good idea, noting that such a representative could provide historical information on drycleaning practices and equipment. Scott Stupak suggested inviting someone to give a presentation on EQuIS (an environmental data management program), but other conference call participants expressed little enthusiasm for that idea.