Conference Call Minutes from June 27, 2002

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners
Conference Call
June 27, 2002

Conference Call Participants

Pam Wilson


Lisa Taber

North Carolina

William Linn


Bruce Nicholson

North Carolina

Bill Burns


Dick DeZeeuw


Doug Fitton


Amanda Spencer


Jennifer Farrell


Jim Gilbert


Juho So


Steve Goins


Bob Jurgens


Robin Schmidt


Kären Kromar


Jeff Soellner


Jim Harrington

New York

Also participating in the State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners (SCRD) conference call were Richard Steimle from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA's) Technology Innovation Office, Cheryl Joseph from the National Ground Water Association (NGWA), Robert Langston from Environmental Management Support, Inc., (EMS) and Christine Hartnett from Eastern Research Group, Inc. (ERG).

Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup
William Linn provided an update on the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup's activities. He said that more than 45 site profiles have been posted to the SCRD Web site, and encouraged SCRD members to continue sending him site information. He reminded state representatives to look beyond their designated drycleaner cleanup fund programs when trying to identify sites, noting that useful information can be gleaned from sites that have been cleaned up through other programs (e.g., voluntary programs). Richard Steimle said that the profiles can be accessed through SCRD's Web site and that the profile database can be queried to identify sites that have been remediated using particular technologies. But the phrases used to describe cleanup technologies are not consistent: for some of the sites, pump-and-treat technology is referred to as "ground-water removal." Steimle recommended making the language consistent-changing "ground-water removal" to "pump-and-treat," since people are more likely to use the latter when querying the database. Robert Langston agreed to make this change. Steimle said that EPA will continue to hire interns to gather site profile information. He said that one intern is currently gathering information on drycleaning sites in Michigan. Another intern, one who had been assigned to work on Florida's sites, submitted her resignation before her funding ran out. Steimle will talk to Linn to find out whether Florida needs a replacement. If not, the unspent funds will be used to gather site information from another state. Minnesota is a potential candidate. Steimle also expressed interest in hiring an intern to gather information on sites in Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio.

Linn said that the Project Management/Technical Issues Subgroup is also working on a decision tree. Its purpose will be to help state managers make sound management decisions about contaminated drycleaning sites. He said that a draft decision tree will be completed before the fall 2002 SCRD meeting.

Dick DeZeeuw proposed a new project. He suggested creating a list that identifies brand name products that contain tetrachloroethylene (PCE). He said that this will help site investigators determine whether PCE detections at drycleaning sites could be originating from non-drycleaning sources. At one drycleaning site, he said, Oregon representatives who were performing indoor air monitoring were surprised to find a high PCE spike following a series of low detections. The spike corresponded with an oven-cleaning event; Oregon representatives suspect that the oven cleaner contained PCE and that the spike was related to the oven cleaner, not residual effects from a former drycleaning facility. Not all cleaning products list PCE as an ingredient even if they contain it, DeZeeuw noted; thus, it can be difficult for investigators to determine the source of PCE detections. For this reason, it would be useful to create a concise list that identifies PCE-containing products. DeZeeuw agreed to take the lead on this effort. Bob Jurgens and Amanda Spencer agreed to send DeZeeuw information. One call participant suggested compiling the list on SCRD's Web board. This would let SCRD members offer additions, recommend deletions, or identify errors before the list becomes public. Another call participant suggested contacting Janet Hickman (a Dow Chemical representative) for input.

Program Development/Administration Subgroup
Doug Fitton said that the Program Development/Administration Subgroup is preparing flow charts that will illustrate how drycleaning sites move through state cleanup fund programs. Fitton said that Lisa Taber has agreed to compile and complete the flow charts. SCRD members who have not submitted information for the flow charts are encouraged to send Taber information immediately. Fitton and Taber planned to discuss the flow charts' status off line. In addition, Fitton said, the Subgroup is working on an "Options" product. Fitton plans to create an outline for this product before the fall 2002 SCRD meeting.

Outreach Subgroup
Robin Schmidt noted that several potential outreach activities were discussed at the May 2002 SCRD meeting. She revisited some of these topics:

SCRD's Internal Communication
Langston described the different types of communication avenues available to SCRD members. He said that a chat room exists but has never been enabled. Call participants agreed that there is no need to start communicating via chat room at this time. Langston said SCRD members do use the abovementioned Web board (an online bulletin board) to share ideas and information. Call participants asked whether a notification system can be established to alert them when new information is posted. Langston said that this feature already exists.

He agreed to send SCRD members an e-mail that explains what they must do to enable the notification system. SCRD members will test the system during the first week of July and let Langston know whether they experience problems.

The Fall 2002 SCRD Meeting
The next SCRD meeting will take place during the week of October 7, 2002, in Madison, Wisconsin. DeZeeuw will send SCRD members a letter of invitation and a meeting agenda. Call participants indicated that they would like to broaden the attendee list to include representatives from new states. Toward this end, efforts will be made to invite people from California and Michigan. Call participants discussed the meeting agenda. They identified the following as potential sessions and topics of discussion:

Call participants were not sure how many days will be required for the meeting. At a minimum, they agreed, the meeting will last from October 8 through October 10. It may be necessary to meet on October 11 as well. Cheryl Joseph will call hotel representatives to determine whether meeting space is available on October 11. She asked SCRD members to check on flight schedules to determine whether flying home on a Friday will cause any difficulties.

Miscellaneous Information
Jurgens noted that Geoprobe® Systems is offering training in 15 U.S. locations between July and October 2002. He advised visiting the company's Web site for additional details: