Conference Call Minutes from June 23, 2004

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners

State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners
Conference Call

June 23, 2004

Conference Call Participants—State Representatives:

• Wendy Cohen
• Bill Linn
• Jen Farrell
• Juho So
• Bob Jurgens
• Steve Chustz
• Dale Trippler
• Carol Finke
• John Powers
• Scott Stupak

Florida (SCRD Chair)
North Carolina
North Carolina

• Bruce Gilles
• Dick DeZeeuw
• Lisa Appel
• Eric Cathcart
• Craig Dukes
• Steve Goins
• Dan Switek
• Dawne Gardiska
• Ben Forson
• Jeff Soellner

South Carolina
South Carolina
South Carolina

Also participating in the State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners (SCRD) conference call were Richard Steimle from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Cheryl Joseph from the National Ground Water Association (NGWA), and Christine Hartnett from ERG.

Feedback on the Spring 2004 SCRD Meeting
The SCRD team met in St. Paul, Minnesota, on May12-13, 2004. Bill Linn asked call participants to provide feedback on the following components of the meeting:

Update From the Technical Committee
The Technical Committee is currently working on the following two projects:

Update From the Program Development/Administration Committee
Goins said that the Program Development/Administration Committee has continued work on the Component Project document. Over the past couple of weeks, he said, the paper has been updated and sent to Lisa Appel for review. By July 1, 2004, the text will be sent to Perroni for editorial refinement. Once the editorial changes have been made, Goins said, the paper will be ready to post on SCRD's Web site. At that point, the Program Development/Administration Committee will just be expected to update the document on a biannual basis and Committee members will be free to start working on the Resource Allocation project, a project that is aimed to address the following question: What are different states doing to maximize the limited funding that is available to address contaminated drycleaning facilities?

Discussion on the Categories of SCRD Membership
Linn noted that states participating in SCRD fall into three categories: member states, associate states, and represented states. (Definitions for the three categories are provided at He asked whether it makes sense to blend the latter two categories into one. Dale Trippler and Jurgens said that the distinction between associate states (which are seriously considering developing cleanup fund programs) and represented states (which are performing drycleaner cleanups but are not considering developing a formal fund program) was originally made to help NGWA make decisions about whose travel expenses to cover for SCRD meetings. The idea was that NGWA would fund associate states over represented states if there were funding constraints. If NGWA does not think this distinction is necessary, however, call participants agreed that there is no need to distinguish between associate and represented states.

The Status of Louisiana and Connecticut
Linn asked Steve Chustz to provide an update on Louisiana's status. Chustz said that efforts to develop a drycleaner cleanup fund program in Louisiana have died. Linn said that he contacted someone from Connecticut's remediation branch to invite that state to participate in SCRD. Although the person Linn talked to expressed some initial interest, the person has not responded to followup communications. Nevertheless, Linn said that he would contact the person again and invite him to participate in future SCRD conference calls. If the contact from Connecticut does exhibit some interest in SCRD, Linn will ask whether Connecticut would consider participating in the fall 2005 SCRD meeting if it is held in the Northeast. (A location has not yet been chosen for the fall 2005 meeting yet, but Albany, New York, has been listed as one possibility.)

Washington's Experience With Contaminated Drycleaning Facilities
Linn thanked Dawne Gardiska and Ben Forson for participating in the call and asked them to provide information on the magnitude of the drycleaner problem in Washington state. Two years ago, Gardiska said, the Washington Department of Ecology asked the Department of Revenue (DOR) for information on the number of drycleaners in the state. DOR indicated that there were about 7,000 sites, but no information was provided regarding how many of these sites were drop off sites and how many used tetrachloroethylene (PCE). According to some estimates, Gardiska said, there may be as many as 800 sites that fall into the latter category. To date, the state knows of about 99 drycleaning facilities that require clean up. Forson said that innovative technologies are being used to address some of the sites, noting that Density Driven Convection (DDC) has been used to address a site in Bellevue, Washington. Cohen, Jurgens, and So said that they would be very interested in hearing about the DDC project. Forson said that he would contact the Project Manager to find out whether a summary is available for the site. (If so, the summary should be sent to Perroni (, who will in turn, send the summary to the entire SCRD team.)

The Fall 2004 SCRD Meeting
The fall 2004 SCRD conference will be held in Kansas City, Missouri. Cheryl Joseph said that the weeks of September 27, October 4, and October 11 have been identified as possible dates for the meeting. Call participants agreed that the week of September 27 is preferable. Joseph said that she will confirm the dates and send out information about the meeting within the next couple weeks. Joseph noted that some non-SCRD participants might be interested in attending portions of the meeting. She asked call participants to give her an idea of how many extra people might attend so that she can plan accordingly.

Participants talked briefly about the agenda and agreed that the meeting should focus on assessment issues. Toward that end, Geoprobe®Systems (which is based in Kansas) will be asked to deliver a demonstration and a representative from The University of California at Santa Barbara will be asked to speak about microwells. Jurgens will follow up with the former and Linn will follow up with the latter. Although the focus will be on assessment, Linn said, it would be fine to have a few case studies that address interesting remedial technologies. For example, one call participant said, it would be beneficial to have a representative from Washington Department of Ecology present a case study on the abovementioned Bellevue site. While on the topic of case studies, Jurgens said that he hopes to invite representatives from the Kansas Department of Health and Environment to deliver some case studies and he encouraged all the call participants to start identifying interesting case studies for the meeting. He also noted that EPA Region 7, the Headquarters of which is located in Kansas City, has cleaned up drycleaning facilities in Nebraska. Steimle asked Jurgens to send him a contact name for Region 7 so that he can formally invite EPA Region 7 to present a case study at the SCRD meeting. Jurgens asked whether representatives from neighboring states, such as Oklahoma, Iowa, Arkansas, and Nebraska, should be invited to attend. Steimle said that this would be fine and that NGWA might be able to pay for some of the travel expenses if the interested parties can demonstrate that they have something to contribute to the meeting. Carol Finke asked whether the Director of the Missouri Department of Natural Resources' Air and Land Protection Division could deliver some opening remarks. Steimle said that SCRD would be happy to put the Director on the agenda.

Other Meetings
Over the years, SCRD members have made an effort to present information about SCRD and state drycleaner cleanup programs at a number of conferences. Call participants identified the following two meetings as new speaking opportunities that have been brought to their attention:

Next SCRD Call
The next SCRD conference call will be held Wednesday, August 4, 2004, between 11:00 a.m. and 12:30 p.m Eastern Time.

Miscellaneous Topics
The following miscellaneous topics were discussed during the conference call: