Conference Call Minutes from December 16, 2004

Summary of the Remediation Technologies Development Forum

STATE COALITION FOR REMEDIATION OF DRYCLEANERS
CONFERENCE CALL

December 16, 2004

CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS--STATE REPRESENTATIVES:

● Pam WilsonAlabama ● Ken Koon Missouri
● Crystal Collins Alabama ● John Powers North Carolina
● Wendy Cohen California ● Scott Stupak North Carolina
● Jennifer Farrell Florida ● Dianne Thomas North Carolina
● Bill Linn Florida (SCRD Chair) ● Dick DeZeeuw Oregon
● Pat Eriksen Illinois ● Craig Dukes South Carolina
● Mike Perkins Illinois ● Nancy FrazierTennessee
● Bob Jurgens Kansas ● Steve GoinsTennessee
● Allen Dotson Minnesota ● Dan SwitekTexas
● Kären Kromar Minnesota ● Richard ScharlachTexas
● Dale Trippler Minnesota ● Meade AndersonVirginia
● Carol Finke Missouri ● Terry EvansonWisconsin

Also participating in the State Coalition for Remediation of Drycleaners (SCRD) conference call were Richard Steimle of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Carolyn Perroni of Environmental Management Support, Inc., and Christine Hartnett from ERG.

FEEDBACK ON EXISTING SCRD ACTIVITIES AND IDEAS FOR FUTURE DIRECTIONS
Bill Linn said that a survey was recently distributed asking SCRD members to provide feedback on SCRD activities and to identify ideas for future SCRD projects. He thanked those who responded, noting that he recently summarized and distributed the responses he received. (He said that Carolyn Perroni submitted some excellent ideas and he agreed to distribute excerpts from her completed survey in the near future.) Linn said that respondents offered feedback about the following:

Survey respondents also offered ideas about new projects that SCRD could pursue, including:

UPDATE FROM THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
Craig Dukes said that the Technical Committee is currently involved with the following:

UPDATE FROM THE PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT/ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE
Pat Eriksen provided an update on the following Program Development/Administration Committee projects:

Eriksen also noted that he is organizing the administration panel for the spring 2005 SCRD meeting. If anyone would like to recommend a topic for the panel or to serve as a panelist, he said, they should let him know by January 15, 2005.

SUMMARY OF THE TOPICS DISCUSSED AT A MEETING HOSTED BY THE GROUNDWATER RESOURCES ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA (GRAC)
In November, DeZeeuw attended a 1-day conference that was organized by GRAC. The meeting focused on contaminated drycleaners, a topic that has received much attention in California over the last few years, in part because: (1) drycleaner-generated wastes have been identified as a source of tetrachloroethylene (PCE) contamination in a contentious legal battle being fought in the City of Lodi, and (2) efforts are being made to phase out the use of PCE in southern California. DeZeeuw said that about 200 to 250 people attended the conference, most of whom were state regulators or consultants. (Some attorneys were also present and at least one person representing the drycleaning industry also attended.) DeZeeuw said that the meeting agenda included presentations that discussed the threat drycleaners pose to water supplies, human health, and the environment; case studies that explored different remedial strategies; and a panel discussion that addressed policy issues. DeZeeuw, who participated as a panelist for the latter, said that the following policy issues were discussed: What liability issues might arise? What mechanisms can be used to generate resources for drycleaner remediation projects? How do cleanup efforts tie in with Brownfields programs and other redevelopment efforts? Evanson asked whether the meeting papers and presentations have been released to the public yet. DeZeeuw agreed to find out. He said that more information about the meeting is available at the GRAC Web site, which can be found at http://www.grac.org. Linn recommended including a link for GRAC's Web site on the SCRD Web site. He also advised posting a statement on the SCRD Web site noting that DeZeeuw recently served as a panelist for the GRAC meeting.

PREDICTING THE COSTS THAT WILL BE INCURRED UNDER STATE DRYCLEANER CLEANUP FUND PROGRAMS
Oregon's Department of Environmental Quality recently concluded that it will take about $107 million to address all of the facilities that are eligible for cleanup under the state's drycleaner cleanup fund program. With only $600,000 coming into the fund program each year, DeZeeuw said, this means that it will take about 180 years for the state to complete cleanup activities at these sites. He said that the following assumptions were used to generate this estimate:

DeZeeuw said that other states have performed similar exercises and have generated similar conclusions. (For example, South Carolina has estimated that it will take 150 years to address all of its sites given existing budget constraints). As mentioned earlier in this teleconference, DeZeeuw said, such results make him question whether the states should start shifting their focus toward "source reduction and monitoring" rather than aggressively pursuing a NFA classification for each site. In addition to exploring these issues, DeZeeuw said that he thinks it is important to examine the assumptions that the states are using to generate their cost and timeline predictions. Call participants agreed that it would be useful to talk about the values cited for average cleanup costs. While some progress has been made in nailing down a realistic number for the "easy sites," it is unclear how much it will cost to address more complex sites. Linn recommended exploring the assumptions that go into cost estimates (as well as the policy questions that arise when one looks at the estimates) in an ad hoc committee and to place DeZeeuw in charge of this effort.

INFORMATION ON NATURAL ATTENUATION STUDIES AND INITIATIVES
Linn introduced Judie Kean, noting that she serves as a Project Manager for the Florida Department of Environmental Protection and as the leader of the Interstate Technology and Regulatory Council's (ITRC's) Enhanced Attenuation: Chlorinated Organics Team. Linn asked Kean to provide an update on the ITRC's activities. Kean obliged, noting that the following efforts are currently underway:

MISCELLANEOUS TOPICS
Call participants discussed the following miscellaneous topics:

NEXT SCRD CONFERENCE CALL
The next SCRD conference call will be held on January 26, 2005, between 11:00 a.m. and 12:30 p.m. Eastern Time.