Conference Call Minutes from July 21, 2005


JULY 21, 2005


● Pam Wilson Alabama ● Dick DeZeeuw Oregon
● Crystal Collins Alabama ● Lisa Appel South Carolina
● Larry Norris Alabama ● Eric Cathcart South Carolina
● Jamie Goldsberrry Florida ● Rachel Donica South Carolina
● Bill Linn Florida (SCRD Chair) ● Richard Haynes South Carolina
● Bob Jurgens Kansas ● Steve Goins Tennessee
● Allen Dotson Minnesota ● Dan Switek Texas
● Cristine O'Keefe Missouri ● Richard Scharlach Texas
● Scott Stupak North Carolina ● Meade Anderson Virginia

Rich Steimle and Wisconsin members were on vacation this week

Bill Linn stated that Andy McKain of the Mississippi DEQ and Don Richey of Arizona DEQ are interested in joining SCRD as auxiliary states. Mississippi currently does not have a dry cleaning program. There has been interest in establishing a drycleaning solvent cleanup program in Arizona but no legislation has been passed to date.

Cristine O'Keefe, reported for Ken Koon on the Outreach Sub-Committee. The SCRD Newsletter has been posted. Ken asked that it be e-mailed to interested parties. Currently there are 289 subscribers. Also the minutes from the SCRD Raleigh Spring Meeting have been completed and are posted on the website. If there is any additional general information that needs to be posted on the website, please let Ken know.

Bill Linn, reporting for Pat Ericksen stated that there is nothing new from the Administrative Subgroup. The new state fund tables, "State Drycleaner Remediation Programs", are posted on the website. If there are any errors or if you have any problems with the posting on the website, please contact Pete Riddle by phone at 513-321-3035 or by email at

Eric Cathcart reported the combined cleanup statistics for SCRD member states.

3,274 sites in dry-cleaning programs
1,165 site assessments initiated
551 site assessments completed
279 remedial systems installed
104 sites where remediation has been completed
199 sites closed

The Technical Subgroup's recently-completed paper, entitled "Technology Assessment for Remediation at Solvent Contaminated Drycleaner Sites" has been posted on the website. Special thanks to Bob Jurgens for completing the paper after Craig Duke's departure.

Bill Linn stated that there are 96 site profiles on the SCRD website. Let him know if anyone has submitted a site profile but it hasn't been posted yet. Bill wants the Technical Subgroup to write a paper summarizing remedial data posted on the Drycleaning Site Profiles Site profiles should be updated by October 1st.

Scott Stupak has completed an assessment on North Carolina Southern Cleaners & Laundry. Scott asked whether site assessment data for a site profile should be entered for lessons learned. Bill Linn stated that to be posted on the website as a site profile, a drycleaning site must have a remedial system in operation for at least one year.

Bob Jurgens suggested that we add a site investigation component to the site profile section. Dick DeZeeuw stated that site investigation costs as much as remediation in Oregon. Oregon has posted site profiles only for drycleaning sites in remediation. Bill Linn thinks it would be a good idea to develop a format for posting site assessment data on the website.

Bill stated that there will likely be no fall SCRD meeting this year. Rich Steimle is still in the process of procuring a support contractor.

Dick DeZeeuw reported on the ad hoc subcommittee that met to discuss the reduction to one SCRD meeting per year. Lisa Appel, Leo Henning, Pat Ericksen, Bill Linn and Dick conducted a conference call to find a solution for having two meetings a year. One idea was to have each state pay for sending a second person to a meeting. Rich Steimle, said that EPA will support one SCRD meeting per year. The following questions were discussed in the conference call. Is training a requirement in the new grant? Which is more important: an interaction between SCRD and EPA, EPA and SCRD, or SCRD and other states? Rich said one day of training is required but that the SCRD membership could propose alternatives. Rich stated that site profiles feed him information on implementation of remedial technologies. Also SCRD provides the ability to transfer knowledge and information between states. There is no way to maintain two meetings per year. The SCRD members stated that with only one meeting a year, priorities will change and that panel discussions and case studies were probably more value to the members than formal training. Steimle said that elimination of formal training or not requiring formal training for every meeting was acceptable. Steimle says money is available ad hoc for committees to finish papers, etc. The adhoc committee to discuss the future of SCRD should meet again concerning a revised format for annual meetings. Steve Goins asked since EPA is providing funding why can't we stretch to two meetings? Dick DeZeeuw reported that Rich Steimle stated SCRD can meet as often as we want but EPA will only support one meeting per year.

Bill Linn challenged the administrative group for products on the website; something we can share with other states. Can subgroup members think of anything we can share?

A future meeting topic might be drycleaning compliance issues as related to site remediation and closure. Treatment and disposal of separator water was identified as a problem in Florida. Bob Jurgens recommended pollution prevention inspections as a topic. Only 50% of the drycleaning facilities inspected this year in Kansas were in compliance. Dick DeZeeuw is interested in comparing and discussing compliance issues. Oregon reports gross revenue generated per gallons of perc and gallons of perc vs. gallons of waste. Scott Stupak stated that in North Carolina there would have to be a statute change in order to collect those data. DeZeeuw stated that such language is in Oregon's statute, but the Department of Revenue was reluctant to release the information.

Scott Stupak stated that during North Carolina's meetings with Korean drycleaners, he receives complaints that the newer contact water treatment technologies don't work very well. Dick DeZeeuw stated that Oregon has detailed requirements for separator water treatment units and a lot of time was spent trying to ensure that drycleaners installed the right equipment and maintained that equipment. Dick stated that a high compliance rate with right equipment is the way to go. Scott stated that some operators evaporate wastewater using crock-pots behind strip malls. Bob Jurgens stated that Kansas does not require that contact water be treated using filters prior to evaporation.

The next two teleconferences were scheduled for September 22, 2005 and November 17, 2005. This will decrease the frequency to two months.

Eric Cathcart stated that the Technical Subgroup will teleconference in August to work on site profiles. Eric will arrange the specifics by email.