Conference Call Minutes from February 4, 2016

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Thursday, February 4, 2016


Bonnie Temple, Alabama
Jim Fish, Alaska
Nathan Casebeer, California
Sheila Gleason, Connecticut
Bob Asreen, Delaware
Jennifer Farrell
Bill Linn, Florida
Scott Huckstep, Missouri
Steve Hoke, New Jersey
Peter Doorn, North Carolina
Don Hanson, Oregon
Joe Westersund, Oregon
Paul Bergstrand, South Carolina
Allison Hensley, Tennessee
Charles Rowan, Tennessee
Kerry Martin, Texas
Meade Anderson, Virginia
Dave Grimes, Virginia
Steve Teel, Washington
Alyssa Sellwood, Wisconsin
Kristi Dobra, Wyoming
Rob Langston, EMS

Attendance & Opening Remarks - Scott Huckstep (MO)
Scott welcomed everyone to the conference call. John Quander (EPA) has retired and Ed Gilbert is the new EPA contact. Indications are that EPA will continue to provide phone and web support for SCRD.

Outreach Subgroup Report - Scott Huckstep (MO)
The current newsletter is out and available on the website.

Administrative Subgroup Report - Pete Doorn, (NC)
Pete Doorn reported that the "Cost - Closure" project was getting some activity and that Don Hansen, Bill Linn and Pete had developed a scope of work for moving the project forward. As a first step the subgroup had sent a request to the states to contribute data on closure and O&M costs along with time estimates for the remediation and O&M activities. Pete noted that the group had just received the information and were in the process of evaluating the data prior to sharing it. Pete noted that they would not be identifying the sites by state.

Project Management/Technical Subgroup Report - Don Hanson (OR)
Don did not have anything to add on the "Cost-Closure" project.

Old Business
No old business items were brought up by the group.

New Business
Joe Westersund provided an update on the Oregon dry cleaner program’s search for experience with insurance archaeology services for identifying and pursuing pre 1986 business liability insurance policies that might offset cleanup costs. Jim Fish (AK) noted that Alaska had hired contractors on a per site basis and asked Joe if he could provide a summary of the inputs he receives on the issue. Joe indicated he would send out a summary. Joe noted that they had some success in getting insurance companies to pay on the policies of a small number of sites (one example noted was a payment of approximately $800,000 for site cleanup). Some of the problems in the process include: finding evidence of old policies, obtaining the required old policy documents (often dependent on the site owner’s files and organization) and compelling the insurance companies to respond (often dependent on the policy owner’s willingness to pursue a response as insurance companies are usually required to respond to policy holders but not necessarily state agencies).

State Spotlight Presentation
Scott presented an overview of Missouri's Hazardous Substance Site Locator mapping tool ( and how they are using it in their Long Term Stewardship program (Missouri Environmental Site Tracking and Research Tool - or "Missouri E-START"). The tool is a Google Maps based application that combines DNR Facility Files with parcel geo-location information to make site data available from a searchable geo-database. E-START allows the user to download the layer files in KMZ, ESRI or CSV formats. Missouri will be adding new layers for their Brownfields data and their Inactive Voluntary Cleanup Sites data. The E-START tool has been helpful for inspectors to identify sites with controls that require stewardship inspections or O&M checks. Some of the cost for developing and maintaining the system has been covered by fees charged for use of restrictive covenants in site closure, but the allowable fees are likely not sufficient by themselves to cover the long term O&M costs of perpetual site stewardship (estimated at $70 - $80,000).

Pete from NC noted that they are using ArcGIS-Online to develop a tool for supporting the state's drinking water well program. The tool will flag parcels with "notices" on them that indicate the property is associated with a release site so the state health department will know if it is safe to permit a well on the property. The question of civil suits from affected land owners was raised, which several participants acknowledged were likely. It was noted that the information being posted was public information so the feeling was that the state had a minimal liability issue with the project

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